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| Jun 13 at 22:59 | comment | added | philipxy | @Randall Calling it a community doesn't make it a community. Not that I know what SO Inc means or anyone else means when they call it a community. It's a bunch of people with somewhat shared goals. Anyway I don't understand what your point is, what does users forming a community have to do with my comments & the stated goals of the site & the users directing themselves towards them? | |
| Jun 13 at 20:28 | comment | added | Randall | @philipxy "This is not a social site, answerers don't want a relationship, they want a (clear non-duplicate) question to answer." But... isn't this called a "community?" | |
| Jun 13 at 18:04 | comment | added | Randall | Not being snarky here, @Rubiksmath. Could you give one (or two) concrete examples of where you felt like "every time that I came across something that almost answered my question" you were left feeling stymied? | |
| Jun 6 at 21:34 | comment | added | philipxy | "forced down a path that they aren't comfortable with" "just wants help" I suspect that (by "relationship") you mean that the help you want is for other people to guess & extract information from you including your responses/feedback to guesses that they make at what you have not articulated & to ultimately compose clear phrasings of what you are experiencing for you. Well, clear thinking & writing is hard & iterative. Nothing is stopping from you from persevering in improving your own so-far-closed-as-duplicate question via its comment thread. And the results belong in the Q&A not comments. | |
| Jun 6 at 21:24 | comment | added | philipxy | "I was unable to ask for elaboration without asking a duplicate question" Maybe you mean you couldn't get help applying/understanding a Q&A you found without posting a new one that turned out to be a duplicate. But if you want elaboration on using the original question then that's what your new question should clearly ask for. For give & take comments trying to work out a clear phrasing of your question you don't need rep. If the new question is closed as duplicate, you didn't clarify how you were stuck. If you can't articulate via a new question post/comments, how could you at the 1st? | |
| Jun 6 at 18:53 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | If you're trying to get more detail on some specific aspect of a process, then chances are the new question you're worried about asking isn't actually going to duplicate the current one. (But it might duplicate something else.) Please don't fear asking duplicates; if you make a good faith effort to find the question (and fail because of e.g. not knowing the right terminology) and ask your own question well (i.e., it meets all the other standards) then you are actually improving the site by asking - you get your answer, and others can now find it more easily. (But it still gets closed.) | |
| Jun 6 at 18:52 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | "I came across something that almost answered my question where I needed just a little bit of elaboration, I felt quite troubled that I was unable to ask for elaboration without asking a duplicate question." - well, it depends on what kind of elaboration you seek. Generally, we aren't interested in helping you to apply an answer to your individual circumstances - those circumstances don't change what the actual question is. If there's something unclear in an answer, I agree that it's unfortunate that we don't hear from everyone about that lack of clarity. | |
| Jun 6 at 18:42 | comment | added | philipxy | So (not rhetorical): How is being given appropriate targeted advice a problem? What can be done (by answerers & SO) to get askers to act on feedback to get answers? Exactly what sort of different response & interaction do you think will happen? | |
| Jun 6 at 18:33 | comment | added | philipxy | "healthy, two-way relationship, rather than being forced down a path that they aren't comfortable with" You are given advice (upon) asking, take it. This is not a social site, answerers don't want a relationship, they want a (clear non-duplicate) question to answer. The person who is lost is not the person who should guide. "just wants help" You say that but unfortunately you don't want to take the help & you want a "relationship". "I was unable to ask for elaboration without asking a duplicate question" What is the problem? You got an answer. | |
| Jun 6 at 18:29 | history | edited | philipxy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
removed meta & social content, improved language & format, reduced redundancy
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| Jun 6 at 11:39 | comment | added | Gert Arnold | I was unable to ask for elaboration — I can imagine it's frustrating, but please, don't expect to much from being able to do so. In my experience, when this happens, usually it's hard to understand which elaboration is actually aimed at (like an unclear question) or it would go beyond what is actually asked by OP. At any rate, usually it's more or less annoying, esp. when such comments appear long after posting an answer. IMO, the current rep cap is certainly not the single biggest barrier to people getting the answers they want. | |
| Jun 6 at 10:46 | history | answered | Rubiksmath | CC BY-SA 4.0 |